The most intimate moments are shattered now: Arundhati Roy

Booker winning author Arundhati Roy, back after a hiatus of two decades and long-listed for the much-coveted award, speaks about new writing in an interview. 
Arundhati Roy
Arundhati Roy

Booker winning author Arundhati Roy, back after a hiatus of two decades and long-listed for the much-coveted award, speaks about new writing in an interview, offering her opinion about there being "a world of difference between fiction and non-fiction".

"For me, there is a universe of difference between the two. So when I am writing non-fiction, I am writing usually with a tremendous sense of urgency. I am writing when something is closing down, some Supreme Court order has come or something very, very urgent. And I am writing to intervene. I am writing to argue. I am writing to try and open a space for discourse.

"But when I am writing fiction, I am absolutely without urgency. I have been epicly without urgency. I am trying to construct a universe very carefully, very minutely, and in the case of The Ministry of Utmost Happiness I was also experimenting a lot with what fiction can do and how much it can push the walls. So there was absolutely no hurry for me in fiction whereas I have always written non-fiction with a great sense of urgency," Roy said in an interview.

On closer observation, Arundhati Roy's tryst with writing has been carefully divided between carefree periods spent in writing fiction and the "urgent moments" of writing non-fiction.

Her first novel, The God of Small Things, may have introduced her to the literary world but it was not written overnight. After the separation of her parents, Roy spent a large part of her childhood in Kerala, where she came face to face with caste segregation.

There was also an underlying impact of her parents' divorce on her life.

"My parents were divorced when I was about two years old and so I never knew my father. I had never seen him. It was just an absence, a void. My mother was and is very wonderful, but she was also very harsh; so I left home very early. Now it's okay, I go back. But in a way, whereas everyone thinks of divorce as a very terrible thing, I don't necessarily think that way. I think it was better to have a woman asserting her independence and growing into something wonderful like she did, than to live a life of suffering and to transmit that suffering to us. It wasn't easy, but I don't think it was a tragedy either," she recalled.

All of these experiences and personal memories helped shape the larger narrative of The God of Small Things, at the centre of which was a broken heart. While it may not be well known, Roy's first novel too took a couple of years to take its final shape.

But in the period between The God of Small Things and The Ministry of Utmost Happiness, she engaged in writing several books of non-fiction. These books, like The End of Imagination, which she wrote soon after India's second nuclear test in May 1998, were her responses to urgent issues.

Her return to fiction with The Ministry of Utmost Happiness has been the most significant literary event of 2017 so far.

"I started writing it about 10 years ago but I was not in a frame of mind that I have to finish this book by so and so date. In fact, I wanted to live with these people (characters) for a long time to see how we got along together. I think writers are all different, but I am not that interested in writing at a very high speed. However, there is nothing wrong with writing quickly, there are writers who do it brilliantly. But to me it is a very layered universe," she maintained.

The author also said that just like the nuclear bomb splits the atom, a lot has changed in the past 20 years and as a writer, she has evolved too along the journey.

"I am that much older, I have lived that much longer, I have seen that much more, I have been through so many universes and the world has also changed so much. I think we live in a time when technology has split the moment. It's like Tilottama (a character from The Ministry of Utmost Happiness) is sitting there and watching the Jaguar and getting messages about Ghaziabad flats. The most intimate moments are shattered now," she contended.

In a "world that is connected in a way like it never used to be and at a speed which it never used to be", Roy, through her latest novel, has attempted to explore how fiction can take this challenge of changing times.

As a five-year-old, she learned to stand still in one position, silently, for hours, to catch fish. "Perhaps that's what made me a writer in the end," said the much-acclaimed Arundhati Roy, winner of the 1997 Man Booker Prize, talking of her early life and the journey to her second work of fiction, The Ministry of Utmost Happiness.

Roy was born in Meghalaya but spent a large part of her childhood in Kerala after her parents divorced.

<em>Arundhati Roy</em>
Arundhati Roy

"I grew up in a small village; there wasn't a phone or a television or restaurants or cinema halls. But a library used to send us a hundred books every three months and this was the high point of my life. I waited eagerly for the next set of books to arrive... While it wasn't a village like in the north of India, where it would have meant deprivation, there was caste segregation. There was horrible caste segregation and that is what The God of Small Things was about," Roy said, recalling an interview after her first book, which got her the Booker.

She says "it was a luxury" to grow up in this fashion because her mind was not shattered by social media or SMSs coming her way. "The ability to concentrate was incredible," she said.

But it was not all wonderful over there, and writing wasn't even an option for many early years of her life.

"Even though we were not at the bottom of the caste ladder, there was a sort of understanding that nobody is going to marry her and so on. It was perhaps because of this that the idea of independence started quite early for me. And then the only way you could be independent was to be financially independent, which meant do something so that you could start working really early," said Roy.

So she left home at 17, when the thoughts uppermost in her mind were how she would pay her rent or how she would last till the end of the month. "There were many years when writing was just not an option," Roy said, adding that at that point, it didn't seem possible that one could ever become a writer because "I spent many, many years only thinking about the money".

And then, of course, came The God of Small Things, which sold millions of copies across the world and made her famous -- and financially independent. She also became the first Indian to win the Man Booker Prize for fiction and donated the prize money to the Narmada Bachao Andolan.

"The impact of winning the Booker was tremendous. It happened so quickly that I had no time to absorb what was happening. And it took a long time for me to deal with it afterwards because while it was a tremendous sense of accomplishment, at the same time -- being the kind of person I am, living in a country where so many people can't read, can't eat -- being successful in such an unfair and violent society is a bit complicated to deal with," she said.

Notwithstanding this complication, Roy emerged as a global phenomenon after winning the Booker -- an incredible voice of fiction from a third-world country, also hailed gloriously in India.

And then, in May 1998, India conducted its second nuclear test.

"What happened was that the timing of that test was so close to the time when I was being celebrated, that for me to stay quiet was as political as saying something. If I said nothing, somehow I was part of that celebration - a celebration that was repugnant to me," she said. 

She wrote a critique of the test, "The End of Imagination". Political and social Roy was born. The angst, lying dormant within her, found utterance after the bombs went off in India - and in Pakistan. "That became the beginning of another kind of journey for me," said Roy, who has since been at the forefront of many social, political and environmental struggles.

Roy's return to fiction after a gap of 20 years delves into a parallel universe inhabited by people who dictate terms to her and boss around in her house, as she curiously engages with them to see how well they get along together. This "magical bonhomie" of the novelist transpires into characters who breathe life into the pages of her fiction.

The opening of The Ministry of Utmost Happiness ends on a thoughtful note: "Not many noticed the passing of the friendly old birds. There was so much else to look forward to."

This also stands true for her tryst with writing. There has been "so much else" to make noise around her that the ethereal and sublime aspects of her creative genius often go unnoticed. Just like this little hint that Roy left in the opening of her book -- again leading the Man Booker Prize longlist -- her fiction appears to be too deep to be read superficially. It is structured like an onion where layers have to be peeled to get closer to the underlying messages.

It took her ten years to write the book. She says she allowed the plot and characters to take their own course and was never in a hurry to finish the book. For a decade she lived with Anjum, Tilottama and other characters travelling through several universes like the Khwabgah, and taking a much bigger risk, in terms of experimentation, than The God of Small Things.

"A novel is a magical thing. It is a very layered universe. And it can only take that much time. I could not have written it faster or slower. It had its own pace and it dictated its own terms," quipped the author.

The Ministry of Utmost Happiness is much broader in its context than The God of Small Things, and yet it is very intimate in its moments too. Her first novel is about a family, at whose centre is a broken heart. Her latest is about shattered people, who bring together little pieces and make a mended heart in a graveyard.

And in the world of fiction she's too big a name for her work not to succeed.

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